It was a point raised, so I responded to it. I admit I'm confused where the problem lies with that.Khaela Mensha Khaine wrote:That wasn't the thought at all, it's one of many points that was raised. A side-note, one that the focal point of my post did not need to stand firmly on its own merit, but which I felt worth mentioning because it seemed completely out of place in this discussion.
Well...your suspicion is in fact wrong in this case, and the judgement about being immature unwarranted imo. This is why I bring this up.I should further emphasise that bringing the LGBT community into the discussion where no-one from the LGBT community has been offended seems immature at best. If someone from the LGBT community had spoken out to OS then I would say that's very pertinent information to bring forward which would have actually added some credence to the nature of this post. There's no faux pas in doing that, as long as you weren't naming the individual who spoke up directly. As it stands, I have a strong suspicion this was not the case, so the comment I made is perfectly fine where it is.
Well, once again, I must stress that you're missing where the complaint lies. It isn't that erotic RP can't or shouldn't happen, or that it interrupts DMs. Again, I'm 100% okay with the RP happening, publicly or not-publicly. I just don't want it to draw away from the server's feel. I'm fairly certain I'm the only person here to have grumped about seeing the RP while on as a DM, but my own frustration when I DM'd was not that it happened but that it was more becoming prevalent than other RP.'m quite aware that the more information the better as a DM, and I agree that coding seems a really awesome tool, but that entire explanation has already had an answer provided. Namely, if the case was DMs getting constantly interrupted by 'social' RP or, to put it bluntly, ERP then honestly it was a simple case of discussing this amongst other DMs and issuing a rule that erotic roleplay should be kept to Tells, where it is out of even the DMs eyes.
I'm happy to correct the record here and say that tells are definitely not available to DMs.And if Tells are not out of the DMs eyes then I think that's definitely information that should be made public, as that's invading players' privacy in quite an underhanded manner.
No, I was giving you an example of a similar potential problem to try and illustrate the point. I haven't given the title of the thread much consideration as it seems like a very small thing to complain about or, alternatively, praise.This is pretty much echoing a point I already made. Re-read my first post on that note. But from this I gather you agree that the original post and the title of the post completely misses the issue and was poorly constructed?
Prior to making that statement I constructed an argument that:I'm not sure where you got that implication from, as I certainly didn't make it. I haven't seen anyone else imply it either. Correct me if I'm wrong, though I'd like to see a quote where that was the case if so. I questioned very much the thought process behind the original post and that it was poorly constructed, poorly thought out and honestly barely even addresses what actually seems to be the problem.
1. DMs can do their jobs better with all the information.
2. DMs' jobs include helping guide the direction of the server, maintain the intended feel of the place, etc.
3. If a DM notices what they perceive as a potential issue, it's their job to speak up about it and try to correct it.
So when the answer is "DMs can choose not to see that information" is the reply, my argument is: that asks DMs to ignore two parts of their job. However, I'll stress once again that I'm 99% sure I'm the only one who complained about that. I feel absolutely awful that my own brash complaint about it has led to criticism of the feature, and I hope that folks will understand that one grumpy, miserly ex-DM does not a staff make.
Fair enough.Perhaps the reaction was disproportionate, but I don't think a bad reaction is unwarranted, and I'm not prepared to blame human beings for an overly emotional response. It happens.
Long-time players here know that the server has a long history of passionate arguments, discussions, and debates. We'll all debate things until we're blue in the face, disagree profoundly, and come back together at the end of the day to play and have fun. I have antagonized staff quite a bit myself with my own brash opinions, been louder and more outspoken (and only varying degrees of right or justified) than most here, etc. Never have I been ostracized for my opinions, or seen anyone here ostracized for speaking their opinions.I would hope that no-one ostracizes me for speaking my mind, but at the same time the welfare of this server and the players' feelings are fairly important to me as I like this server very much and I do not like to see so many people tap out because of something like this. If I'm ostracized in any way, fair enough. I feel quite strongly on this matter.